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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/06/generational-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-39808</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m buying my grandmother&#039;s house -- going through the process right now. It was appraised at $110,000 and my down payment is $20,000. Back in 1954 when my grandparent&#039;s built the house they put $1,000 down -- the whole house cost $5,000! 

While that seems cheap to me it&#039;s really not when you think about how much stuff cost back then and what people made for a living. Were the good old days really so good? My grandmother got $2.00 a week for caring for a child in her home. She has about 14 of them! And that was per family! Even if they had three kids she still charged $2.00. 

How times have changed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m buying my grandmother&#8217;s house &#8212; going through the process right now. It was appraised at $110,000 and my down payment is $20,000. Back in 1954 when my grandparent&#8217;s built the house they put $1,000 down &#8212; the whole house cost $5,000! </p>
<p>While that seems cheap to me it&#8217;s really not when you think about how much stuff cost back then and what people made for a living. Were the good old days really so good? My grandmother got $2.00 a week for caring for a child in her home. She has about 14 of them! And that was per family! Even if they had three kids she still charged $2.00. </p>
<p>How times have changed!</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/06/generational-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-39747</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 40 - I remember when my parents got a television - I was 7 and they paid cash for it like they paid cash for everything except the house. Today people buy a tv on credit which will cost them more in fees and interest, they get cable or dish which costs them more every month - it&#039;s no longer the idea of &quot;Having X will cost me Y&quot; but &quot;getting X will obligate me to spend Y each month.&quot; 
It&#039;s not difficult to live on 30k a year if you live in the same manner that you did when you were growing up. Go to the library, learn to sew, have friends over for dinner and cards. Don&#039;t even think of going out to eat, ordering in or getting prepared food from the deli - you didn&#039;t eat all that stuff when you were growing up did you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 40 &#8211; I remember when my parents got a television &#8211; I was 7 and they paid cash for it like they paid cash for everything except the house. Today people buy a tv on credit which will cost them more in fees and interest, they get cable or dish which costs them more every month &#8211; it&#8217;s no longer the idea of &#8220;Having X will cost me Y&#8221; but &#8220;getting X will obligate me to spend Y each month.&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s not difficult to live on 30k a year if you live in the same manner that you did when you were growing up. Go to the library, learn to sew, have friends over for dinner and cards. Don&#8217;t even think of going out to eat, ordering in or getting prepared food from the deli &#8211; you didn&#8217;t eat all that stuff when you were growing up did you?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan P Smith</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/06/generational-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-39717</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan P Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 21:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think part of the equation is that so many people start out there life with a bunch of debt from college.  You go to college to be able to get a better paying job and then end up paying for it for a decade.  

Certainly the comments about higher cost of living and higher expectations for standard of living play are very accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think part of the equation is that so many people start out there life with a bunch of debt from college.  You go to college to be able to get a better paying job and then end up paying for it for a decade.  </p>
<p>Certainly the comments about higher cost of living and higher expectations for standard of living play are very accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/06/generational-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-39709</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the most interesting points you made came near the end of your post regarding what we view as necessity vs. luxury in today&#039;s culture. While I think it might be overstepping it a little to say that running water and electricity aren&#039;t essential in this day and age, we all could benefit by simplifying our lives and embracing a &quot;power of small&quot; approach.  We don&#039;t need blackberries and ipods, we WANT them.  Identifying the difference between the to will help us not only recover from years of excess spending, but refocus our society on the things that really matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the most interesting points you made came near the end of your post regarding what we view as necessity vs. luxury in today&#8217;s culture. While I think it might be overstepping it a little to say that running water and electricity aren&#8217;t essential in this day and age, we all could benefit by simplifying our lives and embracing a &#8220;power of small&#8221; approach.  We don&#8217;t need blackberries and ipods, we WANT them.  Identifying the difference between the to will help us not only recover from years of excess spending, but refocus our society on the things that really matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley @ Wide Open Wallet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley @ Wide Open Wallet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband works a blue collar job and we raise our family on one income.  Granted, two kids... not seven.  I have a friend who is a stay at home mom to 4 kids and her husband is a long distance trucker and he was a tow truck driver for years before that.  They do it.  

In my experience it&#039;s very doable.  I suppose we do make sacrifices in order for me to stay home, but I certainly don&#039;t feel that we go without.  Do we have everything want?  No.  But we have everything we need and then some.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband works a blue collar job and we raise our family on one income.  Granted, two kids&#8230; not seven.  I have a friend who is a stay at home mom to 4 kids and her husband is a long distance trucker and he was a tow truck driver for years before that.  They do it.  </p>
<p>In my experience it&#8217;s very doable.  I suppose we do make sacrifices in order for me to stay home, but I certainly don&#8217;t feel that we go without.  Do we have everything want?  No.  But we have everything we need and then some.</p>
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		<title>By: K-Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>K-Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how I could (in theory, I don&#039;t actually have kids) raise a kid on one income:

Have a partner to stay at home to do child care, cook, clean, garden, etc
Yard sale, hand-me-down toys and clothes
No eating out
No new car
No fancy electronics and no cable TV
Vacations would mean car camping, no flying or hotels
Can only afford one kid, two would be stretching it
Kid could only participate in cheap sports

Aside from the one kid thing, this is how I was raised.  And I would only be able to (barely) afford this because I make good money.  Average money would not cut it.

People today think multiple TVs, high speed internet, cable TV, SUVs, destination vacations, cell phones (even for kids!), and fancy electronic toys and games are part of a basic standard of living.  They&#039;re not!  I think having a computer is important because in today&#039;s world kids need to grow up knowing how to use them, but they don&#039;t have to be the latest model.  Mine is six years old and works great.  Mostly the need for two incomes is related to increased lifestyle expectations.

That said, housing costs are a huge issue where I live.  The parents of a friend live a couple blocks from me and paid $18,000 for their house in the 60s.  At the time it was twice her dad&#039;s annual salary.  In the late 70s my parents bought their house in the same city for four times my dad&#039;s annual salary.  Two years ago I bought my house (which is a lot smaller than my parent&#039;s house and somewhat smaller that my friend&#039;s childhood home) for almost six times my annual salary.  My friend&#039;s dad, my dad and I are all in the same salary bracket for our times so it is a good comparison.  I could have one kid, my parents had three and my friend was one of nine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how I could (in theory, I don&#8217;t actually have kids) raise a kid on one income:</p>
<p>Have a partner to stay at home to do child care, cook, clean, garden, etc<br />
Yard sale, hand-me-down toys and clothes<br />
No eating out<br />
No new car<br />
No fancy electronics and no cable TV<br />
Vacations would mean car camping, no flying or hotels<br />
Can only afford one kid, two would be stretching it<br />
Kid could only participate in cheap sports</p>
<p>Aside from the one kid thing, this is how I was raised.  And I would only be able to (barely) afford this because I make good money.  Average money would not cut it.</p>
<p>People today think multiple TVs, high speed internet, cable TV, SUVs, destination vacations, cell phones (even for kids!), and fancy electronic toys and games are part of a basic standard of living.  They&#8217;re not!  I think having a computer is important because in today&#8217;s world kids need to grow up knowing how to use them, but they don&#8217;t have to be the latest model.  Mine is six years old and works great.  Mostly the need for two incomes is related to increased lifestyle expectations.</p>
<p>That said, housing costs are a huge issue where I live.  The parents of a friend live a couple blocks from me and paid $18,000 for their house in the 60s.  At the time it was twice her dad&#8217;s annual salary.  In the late 70s my parents bought their house in the same city for four times my dad&#8217;s annual salary.  Two years ago I bought my house (which is a lot smaller than my parent&#8217;s house and somewhat smaller that my friend&#8217;s childhood home) for almost six times my annual salary.  My friend&#8217;s dad, my dad and I are all in the same salary bracket for our times so it is a good comparison.  I could have one kid, my parents had three and my friend was one of nine.</p>
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		<title>By: DD</title>
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		<dc:creator>DD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice article!

We tried being a one-income family when we had our first kid, but it didn&#039;t take(due to boredom and money issues).  Now we&#039;re trying it again (this time with two kids) after I&#039;ve been laid off and am going back to school.

After a year, it&#039;s not so bad.  But I think we&#039;re making due knowing it will be temporary.

So I guess I think it can be done.  But it takes a lot of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice article!</p>
<p>We tried being a one-income family when we had our first kid, but it didn&#8217;t take(due to boredom and money issues).  Now we&#8217;re trying it again (this time with two kids) after I&#8217;ve been laid off and am going back to school.</p>
<p>After a year, it&#8217;s not so bad.  But I think we&#8217;re making due knowing it will be temporary.</p>
<p>So I guess I think it can be done.  But it takes a lot of work.</p>
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		<title>By: Coupon Artist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coupon Artist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 03:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget that college education also costs a lot more than it used to.  
And the cost of health insurance/ day care, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget that college education also costs a lot more than it used to.<br />
And the cost of health insurance/ day care, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 02:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments everyone! And lots of diverse thought here!

@ Dawn - You know, that&#039;s a very good point. I didn&#039;t really give it much thought per se, because in my neighborhood growing up, we played in everyone else&#039;s backyard. My next door neighbor was a good buddy and we even had the tin can telephones...amazingly that worked!

@ Kosmo - Easy credit is another factor. It certainly has driven the way we choose to spend our money.

@ BM - Looking at the issue from the perspective of the school districts is a good point. I don&#039;t have kids, so I don&#039;t really give much thought to that. At this point, I can afford to go where&#039;s it&#039;s cheaper.

@ Angie - Thank you for sharing! I know it can be done with one income these days, but I guess I&#039;m really wondering what&#039;s the threshold where it stops being possible. If the average family makes $32k, can they comfortably go with that one income? What about $27k? Is that too low? In your experience, do you think such a threshold exists?

@ Patrick - I think if I ever decide to have kids, I&#039;ll go the route you and your wife chose. I think it makes sense to cover your bases. Not everyone is lucky enough to do that; however, I think it&#039;s important to at least try. And thank you for your kind words about the article. It was derived from your article, so I must give the credit to you! ;)

@ Christine - I&#039;m also trying to downsize my life, so I understand the challenge you face! Best of luck to you and I&#039;m glad you found this article helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments everyone! And lots of diverse thought here!</p>
<p>@ Dawn &#8211; You know, that&#8217;s a very good point. I didn&#8217;t really give it much thought per se, because in my neighborhood growing up, we played in everyone else&#8217;s backyard. My next door neighbor was a good buddy and we even had the tin can telephones&#8230;amazingly that worked!</p>
<p>@ Kosmo &#8211; Easy credit is another factor. It certainly has driven the way we choose to spend our money.</p>
<p>@ BM &#8211; Looking at the issue from the perspective of the school districts is a good point. I don&#8217;t have kids, so I don&#8217;t really give much thought to that. At this point, I can afford to go where&#8217;s it&#8217;s cheaper.</p>
<p>@ Angie &#8211; Thank you for sharing! I know it can be done with one income these days, but I guess I&#8217;m really wondering what&#8217;s the threshold where it stops being possible. If the average family makes $32k, can they comfortably go with that one income? What about $27k? Is that too low? In your experience, do you think such a threshold exists?</p>
<p>@ Patrick &#8211; I think if I ever decide to have kids, I&#8217;ll go the route you and your wife chose. I think it makes sense to cover your bases. Not everyone is lucky enough to do that; however, I think it&#8217;s important to at least try. And thank you for your kind words about the article. It was derived from your article, so I must give the credit to you! ;)</p>
<p>@ Christine &#8211; I&#8217;m also trying to downsize my life, so I understand the challenge you face! Best of luck to you and I&#8217;m glad you found this article helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 19:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article. You are definitely right about America’s Expectation of a Higher Lifestyle. We are now expected to live with a cell phone, cable tv, internet, etc... If I canceled just those services I would have an extra $400-$500 dollars. Plus our costs of living is higher regarding housing. Well, at least in Southern California it is. If I could afford to stay home I would save another $400 in childcare costs. Plus, we have the monthly car payments. I commute 2 hours each day so for me it seems essential to have a decent car. Anyhow... you talked about some great points. 

Plus, back then you weren&#039;t overloaded with stores/shopping and internet shopping. You had Gimmel&#039;s, Woolworths, or Sears. And your food selections were not overloaded with convenience food. Women cooked back then to make mostly everything you needed from scratch. There is a great article about the past, &lt;a href=&quot;http://down---to---earth.blogspot.com/2009/05/living-well-on-less.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. 

Well, I am in a transition currently seeking to downsize my family to a one income household. I would like to have the opportunity to downsize so that I may become an entreprenuer and/or my husband can retire. I am rather happy about this challenge. So, this post was a good one for the interests I am now pursuing. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article. You are definitely right about America’s Expectation of a Higher Lifestyle. We are now expected to live with a cell phone, cable tv, internet, etc&#8230; If I canceled just those services I would have an extra $400-$500 dollars. Plus our costs of living is higher regarding housing. Well, at least in Southern California it is. If I could afford to stay home I would save another $400 in childcare costs. Plus, we have the monthly car payments. I commute 2 hours each day so for me it seems essential to have a decent car. Anyhow&#8230; you talked about some great points. </p>
<p>Plus, back then you weren&#8217;t overloaded with stores/shopping and internet shopping. You had Gimmel&#8217;s, Woolworths, or Sears. And your food selections were not overloaded with convenience food. Women cooked back then to make mostly everything you needed from scratch. There is a great article about the past, <a href="http://down---to---earth.blogspot.com/2009/05/living-well-on-less.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>. </p>
<p>Well, I am in a transition currently seeking to downsize my family to a one income household. I would like to have the opportunity to downsize so that I may become an entreprenuer and/or my husband can retire. I am rather happy about this challenge. So, this post was a good one for the interests I am now pursuing. ;)</p>
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