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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/05/teaching-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-39994</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 05:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since what the professor was said was wrong, can you tell us what is correct? I was under the impression that after the end of 2009, you would have to move your money if you have more than $250k.

I tried to find the answer on the FDIC site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since what the professor was said was wrong, can you tell us what is correct? I was under the impression that after the end of 2009, you would have to move your money if you have more than $250k.</p>
<p>I tried to find the answer on the FDIC site.</p>
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		<title>By: NtJS</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/05/teaching-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-39905</link>
		<dc:creator>NtJS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 13:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristy-

So how would you qualify someone to teach personal finance?

I&#039;m all for having knowledgeable teach the subject at hand, and I whole-heartily believe we should be teaching personal finance in our high-schools and colleges.  But what would qualify someone to do so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristy-</p>
<p>So how would you qualify someone to teach personal finance?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for having knowledgeable teach the subject at hand, and I whole-heartily believe we should be teaching personal finance in our high-schools and colleges.  But what would qualify someone to do so?</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/05/teaching-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-39677</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 12:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I continued to have issues with him only b/c he was a horrible instructor and completely unqualified to be teaching the course.  The class I was in covered a specific programming language - one that I was already using everyday at work.  I think he felt threatened by me b/c he knew that I was already employed as a programmer, which is ridiculous...

I taught programming courses for four years.  I loved it when a student would find a mistake in my lesson.  I wanted them to call me out when I was wrong.  I considered it win for us both whenever a student was able to find a mistake by using the skills I taught them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I continued to have issues with him only b/c he was a horrible instructor and completely unqualified to be teaching the course.  The class I was in covered a specific programming language &#8211; one that I was already using everyday at work.  I think he felt threatened by me b/c he knew that I was already employed as a programmer, which is ridiculous&#8230;</p>
<p>I taught programming courses for four years.  I loved it when a student would find a mistake in my lesson.  I wanted them to call me out when I was wrong.  I considered it win for us both whenever a student was able to find a mistake by using the skills I taught them.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristy</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/05/teaching-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-39635</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 02:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mimi - he has a Bachelor&#039;s degree and is working on his Master&#039;s with the school; however, I think he is still qualified due to the fact that he has served in public office for over 15 years. The problem for me is when they go into topics they don&#039;t specialize in and give the wrong information. I communicated my concerns in his review.

@ fern - I directed him to FDIC.gov and NCUA.gov

@ Kosmo - I agree with you on the disclaimer part, I wish more instructors would use it! That&#039;s crazy about your programming class! I find it interesting that she felt the need to write the program even though the book said she was wrong...why use a book you feel like you need to challenge? That&#039;s weird.

@ Kev - Man I hate professor&#039;s like that! Did you end up having trouble with him the rest of the semester? I was fortunate enough to have a professor who was receptive to the information that I was giving him, which helped appease my irritation with him. But, in your case I would have been downright pissed off!

@ MoneyMateKate - Yes, it could have backfired, but it was the end of the semester and there are over 100 students in my class. I don&#039;t think he&#039;d fancy trying to take the time to figure out which number in the class I am, and besides which, even if the students were not directly affected, the information was still incorrect. As a banking professional, I could not let that pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mimi &#8211; he has a Bachelor&#8217;s degree and is working on his Master&#8217;s with the school; however, I think he is still qualified due to the fact that he has served in public office for over 15 years. The problem for me is when they go into topics they don&#8217;t specialize in and give the wrong information. I communicated my concerns in his review.</p>
<p>@ fern &#8211; I directed him to FDIC.gov and NCUA.gov</p>
<p>@ Kosmo &#8211; I agree with you on the disclaimer part, I wish more instructors would use it! That&#8217;s crazy about your programming class! I find it interesting that she felt the need to write the program even though the book said she was wrong&#8230;why use a book you feel like you need to challenge? That&#8217;s weird.</p>
<p>@ Kev &#8211; Man I hate professor&#8217;s like that! Did you end up having trouble with him the rest of the semester? I was fortunate enough to have a professor who was receptive to the information that I was giving him, which helped appease my irritation with him. But, in your case I would have been downright pissed off!</p>
<p>@ MoneyMateKate &#8211; Yes, it could have backfired, but it was the end of the semester and there are over 100 students in my class. I don&#8217;t think he&#8217;d fancy trying to take the time to figure out which number in the class I am, and besides which, even if the students were not directly affected, the information was still incorrect. As a banking professional, I could not let that pass.</p>
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		<title>By: MoneyMateKate</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/05/teaching-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-39578</link>
		<dc:creator>MoneyMateKate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 16:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never had a good experience openly correcting a teacher in class - it&#039;s a direct challenge to their right to have their job. One barely passed me, another became very dismissive, and those are just the ones I remember. I always found writing a little note and attaching it to my assignment/test/etc. or speaking to them privately got a much better reaction. By giving them a chance to figure it out for themselves and prepare their response, they were more likely to admit their mistake to the whole class without losing face.

I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d have bothered with the FDIC info though - like you said, it didn&#039;t directly affect anyone in the class. And by the time you have that kind of money to plop in a savings account, you&#039;re probably more aware of assorted financial vehicles and insurances if for no other reason than you have a CPA covering your backside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never had a good experience openly correcting a teacher in class &#8211; it&#8217;s a direct challenge to their right to have their job. One barely passed me, another became very dismissive, and those are just the ones I remember. I always found writing a little note and attaching it to my assignment/test/etc. or speaking to them privately got a much better reaction. By giving them a chance to figure it out for themselves and prepare their response, they were more likely to admit their mistake to the whole class without losing face.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d have bothered with the FDIC info though &#8211; like you said, it didn&#8217;t directly affect anyone in the class. And by the time you have that kind of money to plop in a savings account, you&#8217;re probably more aware of assorted financial vehicles and insurances if for no other reason than you have a CPA covering your backside.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 14:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a little off-track, but I had a similar experience to Kosmo.  Same thing - I&#039;m in IT and was taking a programming course.  We were going over the results of a recent test when I noticed that one of my answers had been incorrectly marked wrong.  I through a quick sample program together to prove I was right and then waited until we were ready to discuss the question I had missed.  Once we got to it, I raised my hand and said that I think there may have been an error with his answer key.  I went on to explain why the &quot;right&quot; answer was actually incorrect.

Man was he pissed.  He started trying to argue with me about it right in the middle of class.  By this time, another student had chimed in and said that I was correct and that the answer he gave was wrong.  It was about that time that he looked at everyone in the class and said &quot;These two guys both got A&#039;s on their test, yet they are wasting all of YOUR time complaining about one question!&quot;  He actually tried to turn the rest of class against me...

I informed him that it wasn&#039;t about missing one question and that I didn&#039;t care about the couple of points I had missed.  I was merely trying to point out an error with his grading and that all I really wanted was for my classmates to be given accurate information.  Why he decided to take it personally I&#039;ll never know...  Even with the proof right in front of him, he refused to admit to me or the class that he was incorrect.

Point being - at least your instructor was receptive your correction and  I&#039;m sure your classmates benefited from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a little off-track, but I had a similar experience to Kosmo.  Same thing &#8211; I&#8217;m in IT and was taking a programming course.  We were going over the results of a recent test when I noticed that one of my answers had been incorrectly marked wrong.  I through a quick sample program together to prove I was right and then waited until we were ready to discuss the question I had missed.  Once we got to it, I raised my hand and said that I think there may have been an error with his answer key.  I went on to explain why the &#8220;right&#8221; answer was actually incorrect.</p>
<p>Man was he pissed.  He started trying to argue with me about it right in the middle of class.  By this time, another student had chimed in and said that I was correct and that the answer he gave was wrong.  It was about that time that he looked at everyone in the class and said &#8220;These two guys both got A&#8217;s on their test, yet they are wasting all of YOUR time complaining about one question!&#8221;  He actually tried to turn the rest of class against me&#8230;</p>
<p>I informed him that it wasn&#8217;t about missing one question and that I didn&#8217;t care about the couple of points I had missed.  I was merely trying to point out an error with his grading and that all I really wanted was for my classmates to be given accurate information.  Why he decided to take it personally I&#8217;ll never know&#8230;  Even with the proof right in front of him, he refused to admit to me or the class that he was incorrect.</p>
<p>Point being &#8211; at least your instructor was receptive your correction and  I&#8217;m sure your classmates benefited from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kosmo @ The Casual Observer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kosmo @ The Casual Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 18:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, you&#039;re not overreacting.  People are fed a lot of incorrect (and sometimes bizarre) information about personal finance.

I have a degree in accounting, but have worked in information technology since graduating college.  People ask me tax questions from time to time.  I do my best to answer them.  If there is any sort of complexity, I typically point out that it has been X years since I studied tax in college, and that they might want to check with their tax professional to make sure.

So, at the very least, it would be nice for people to verbalize a disclaimer into their lecture when they are outside of their field of expertise.

I corrected a computer science professor once.  It WAS her field of expertise, but she was wrong anyway - and I pointed to the exact page of the text book that pointed this out.  She proceeded to write a quick sample program to verify who was right - and proved me to be correct :)  Oddly, she seemed to like me MORE after that incident.  She was a really bad instructor, though.  The entire class took her to task in the written reviews at the end of the course.  She wasn&#039;t retained by the university.

I was the &quot;old guy&quot; (25) in the front row, pursuing some extra coursework.  I already had a degree, so I wasn&#039;t taking as much of a risk as people who could be risking their GPA by making a prof mad at them.  Like you, I didn&#039;t want these kids having bad information.  If I hadn&#039;t said something, they would have had a lot of difficulty trying to determine why their programs weren&#039;t working!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you&#8217;re not overreacting.  People are fed a lot of incorrect (and sometimes bizarre) information about personal finance.</p>
<p>I have a degree in accounting, but have worked in information technology since graduating college.  People ask me tax questions from time to time.  I do my best to answer them.  If there is any sort of complexity, I typically point out that it has been X years since I studied tax in college, and that they might want to check with their tax professional to make sure.</p>
<p>So, at the very least, it would be nice for people to verbalize a disclaimer into their lecture when they are outside of their field of expertise.</p>
<p>I corrected a computer science professor once.  It WAS her field of expertise, but she was wrong anyway &#8211; and I pointed to the exact page of the text book that pointed this out.  She proceeded to write a quick sample program to verify who was right &#8211; and proved me to be correct :)  Oddly, she seemed to like me MORE after that incident.  She was a really bad instructor, though.  The entire class took her to task in the written reviews at the end of the course.  She wasn&#8217;t retained by the university.</p>
<p>I was the &#8220;old guy&#8221; (25) in the front row, pursuing some extra coursework.  I already had a degree, so I wasn&#8217;t taking as much of a risk as people who could be risking their GPA by making a prof mad at them.  Like you, I didn&#8217;t want these kids having bad information.  If I hadn&#8217;t said something, they would have had a lot of difficulty trying to determine why their programs weren&#8217;t working!</p>
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		<title>By: fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would follow up with your comments to him with written confirmation from some reputable source to back up what you said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would follow up with your comments to him with written confirmation from some reputable source to back up what you said.</p>
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		<title>By: mimi</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2009/05/05/teaching-personal-finance/comment-page-1/#comment-39458</link>
		<dc:creator>mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 16:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should find out what his credentials are and write a letter to the department head. I am an adjunct instructor in a journalism program and I have to have my master&#039;s for that -- which I do. It would be interesting to know if he has his MS or his PhD...if he does he should know better...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should find out what his credentials are and write a letter to the department head. I am an adjunct instructor in a journalism program and I have to have my master&#8217;s for that &#8212; which I do. It would be interesting to know if he has his MS or his PhD&#8230;if he does he should know better&#8230;</p>
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