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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2008/05/23/what-i-think-of-dave-ramsey/comment-page-2/#comment-59879</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 00:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 37 years old - Married with a 3 year old child. 

In the past 4 years we have:

1. Paid off 42,000.00 in credit and auto loans.
2. Saved 8 months of expenses.
3. Saved 49,000.00 for my son&#039;s college education.
4. Maxed out 4 ROTH IRA&#039;s (30K a year).
5. Paid off our 450,000 home (with a little help from a 125K inheritance). 

We both make straight commissions and our incomes have tripled. We really needed this plan to get us &quot;on track&quot; and see the big financial picture. You can argue all you want as to if you &quot;like it&quot; or not. 

One thing that I can tell you is this - most people that try and &quot;shoot holes&quot; have never been on our side of the fence. They have never put in the 4 years of work. I have been on your side so don&#039;t knock my side until you cross over and at least try it. If you don&#039;t like it you can always get right back into debt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 37 years old &#8211; Married with a 3 year old child. </p>
<p>In the past 4 years we have:</p>
<p>1. Paid off 42,000.00 in credit and auto loans.<br />
2. Saved 8 months of expenses.<br />
3. Saved 49,000.00 for my son&#8217;s college education.<br />
4. Maxed out 4 ROTH IRA&#8217;s (30K a year).<br />
5. Paid off our 450,000 home (with a little help from a 125K inheritance). </p>
<p>We both make straight commissions and our incomes have tripled. We really needed this plan to get us &#8220;on track&#8221; and see the big financial picture. You can argue all you want as to if you &#8220;like it&#8221; or not. </p>
<p>One thing that I can tell you is this &#8211; most people that try and &#8220;shoot holes&#8221; have never been on our side of the fence. They have never put in the 4 years of work. I have been on your side so don&#8217;t knock my side until you cross over and at least try it. If you don&#8217;t like it you can always get right back into debt.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2008/05/23/what-i-think-of-dave-ramsey/comment-page-2/#comment-58771</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 03:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I am a banker, have been one for sometime now. But I love Dave R. I understand the logic of paying off the highest interest rate first and you can do that in the debt snow ball if you wish. I think the only reason some people don&#039;t like him is the same reason some people don&#039;t like weight watchers. If you own a fast food place you hate the healthy and also if you tried it and it didn&#039;t work for you because you didn&#039;t stay on the program. Truth is when someone is out there trying to help people we shouldn&#039;t try to break them down even if their plan isn&#039;t the one we would use. If 30% of the people who try Dave&#039;s plan get out of debt then it&#039;s a fantastic plan. And he doesn&#039;t charge an arm and a leg for his program either unlike some of these financial places. $100 for a lifetime membership? Not bad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I am a banker, have been one for sometime now. But I love Dave R. I understand the logic of paying off the highest interest rate first and you can do that in the debt snow ball if you wish. I think the only reason some people don&#8217;t like him is the same reason some people don&#8217;t like weight watchers. If you own a fast food place you hate the healthy and also if you tried it and it didn&#8217;t work for you because you didn&#8217;t stay on the program. Truth is when someone is out there trying to help people we shouldn&#8217;t try to break them down even if their plan isn&#8217;t the one we would use. If 30% of the people who try Dave&#8217;s plan get out of debt then it&#8217;s a fantastic plan. And he doesn&#8217;t charge an arm and a leg for his program either unlike some of these financial places. $100 for a lifetime membership? Not bad!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2008/05/23/what-i-think-of-dave-ramsey/comment-page-2/#comment-57500</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever your thoughts are on paying off debt, can you claim to have helped millions of people? 

And by the way, there is no such word as &quot;IRREGARDLESS&quot;!! Good grief, how about spelling/grammar check?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever your thoughts are on paying off debt, can you claim to have helped millions of people? </p>
<p>And by the way, there is no such word as &#8220;IRREGARDLESS&#8221;!! Good grief, how about spelling/grammar check?</p>
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		<title>By: Credit Card Chaser</title>
		<link>http://masteryourcard.com/blog/2008/05/23/what-i-think-of-dave-ramsey/comment-page-2/#comment-57430</link>
		<dc:creator>Credit Card Chaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave Ramsey is not just bad at math but he is flat out wrong when it comes to not only his Debt Snowball but also his anti credit card approach and I can prove it here: http://www.creditcardchaser.com/dave-ramsey-credit-cards-i-love-ya-dave-but-you-are-dead-wrong/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Ramsey is not just bad at math but he is flat out wrong when it comes to not only his Debt Snowball but also his anti credit card approach and I can prove it here: <a href="http://www.creditcardchaser.com/dave-ramsey-credit-cards-i-love-ya-dave-but-you-are-dead-wrong/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.creditcardchaser.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.creditcardchaser.com/dave-ramsey-credit-cards-i-love-ya-dave-but-you-are-dead-wrong/</a></p>
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		<title>By: matt@Thrive</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt@Thrive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon: But there are other ways to address getting people in between gas stations.  I&#039;m the behavioral psychologist here at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justthrive.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thrive&lt;/a&gt; and I certainly agree that motivation is key: if you can&#039;t people to follow the mathematically best plan, then it isn&#039;t the best plan.

But there are ways to help people pay off highest debt cards first and maintain motivation.  Showing them an easy graphical representation of what paying it off does, for example.  Helping them budget.  Giving them positive encouragement when they do things right.  The list is long, and they are all things we try to do at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.justthrive.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thrive&lt;/a&gt;, for obvious reasons: in the struggle to help people lead better financial lives, we certainly use every psychological strategy in the book.

I think Kristy sums it up well at the end - you have to show people the difference and then help them build a plan that sustains that.  Ramsey is giving you a one-time plan that might help you, and that&#039;s great.  But the reason he is mostly concerned with motivation is because he&#039;s not actually helping you every day, giving you tools, helping you touch back on growing your financial life.  And that&#039;s where I see online and other tools as critical: where Dave gives you a book, we&#039;re giving you the tools.  

And that&#039;s &quot;teach a man to fish&quot; land.  Not just saying &quot;do this and it will work for you&quot; but saying &quot;do this, here is an easy to understand reason why, and let me fish right alongside you, so that you can ask me questions as you have them&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon: But there are other ways to address getting people in between gas stations.  I&#8217;m the behavioral psychologist here at <a href="http://www.justthrive.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.justthrive.com');" rel="nofollow">Thrive</a> and I certainly agree that motivation is key: if you can&#8217;t people to follow the mathematically best plan, then it isn&#8217;t the best plan.</p>
<p>But there are ways to help people pay off highest debt cards first and maintain motivation.  Showing them an easy graphical representation of what paying it off does, for example.  Helping them budget.  Giving them positive encouragement when they do things right.  The list is long, and they are all things we try to do at <a href="http://www.justthrive.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.justthrive.com');" rel="nofollow">Thrive</a>, for obvious reasons: in the struggle to help people lead better financial lives, we certainly use every psychological strategy in the book.</p>
<p>I think Kristy sums it up well at the end &#8211; you have to show people the difference and then help them build a plan that sustains that.  Ramsey is giving you a one-time plan that might help you, and that&#8217;s great.  But the reason he is mostly concerned with motivation is because he&#8217;s not actually helping you every day, giving you tools, helping you touch back on growing your financial life.  And that&#8217;s where I see online and other tools as critical: where Dave gives you a book, we&#8217;re giving you the tools.  </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s &#8220;teach a man to fish&#8221; land.  Not just saying &#8220;do this and it will work for you&#8221; but saying &#8220;do this, here is an easy to understand reason why, and let me fish right alongside you, so that you can ask me questions as you have them&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the issue is whether or not the debt snowball is the fastest way to get out of debt, then the answer is no. But if the goal is to get the most people out of debt so that people can live a better quality of life, then I think the debt snowball is probably the best method to get out of debt for someone like Dave Ramsey to endorse.  

Why?  Because, while it might not be the most efficient, it is method that people are the least likely to get burned on.  It&#039;s like taking a cross country trip by going the route with more gas stations rather than the one with a few less miles.

If you can do it a faster way, great, but make sure you have the resolve to do it, because you are more likely to burn out.  If you follow Ramsey&#039;s method, you might not get mathmatically as far as is possible, but you will get far, and it works almost all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the issue is whether or not the debt snowball is the fastest way to get out of debt, then the answer is no. But if the goal is to get the most people out of debt so that people can live a better quality of life, then I think the debt snowball is probably the best method to get out of debt for someone like Dave Ramsey to endorse.  </p>
<p>Why?  Because, while it might not be the most efficient, it is method that people are the least likely to get burned on.  It&#8217;s like taking a cross country trip by going the route with more gas stations rather than the one with a few less miles.</p>
<p>If you can do it a faster way, great, but make sure you have the resolve to do it, because you are more likely to burn out.  If you follow Ramsey&#8217;s method, you might not get mathmatically as far as is possible, but you will get far, and it works almost all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read all the comments, but get the general theme--Dave Ramsey is bad at math.  Here&#039;s his response to this charge:  If you were good at math, you wouldn&#039;t be thousands of dollars in debt.

How many of you calling Dave &quot;bad at math&quot; are debt-free millionaires?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read all the comments, but get the general theme&#8211;Dave Ramsey is bad at math.  Here&#8217;s his response to this charge:  If you were good at math, you wouldn&#8217;t be thousands of dollars in debt.</p>
<p>How many of you calling Dave &#8220;bad at math&#8221; are debt-free millionaires?</p>
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		<title>By: John H</title>
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		<dc:creator>John H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 33 came from lower middle class family, College grad and I have no debt, how?...I never got it in the 1st place. How about that for an idea? The key to all your debt problems, How about don&#039;t put yourself in debt the 1st place. I like how people talk about emotions and relationships and the subject is money. That&#039;s probably why they are in debt in the 1st place. What ever happened to personal responsibility? Ohh, this is real life, boo whoo, numbers are great in theory but I gotta live in the real world&quot;...boo whoo....that type of thinking is what fuels the problem in the 1st place. Take your emotions out spending. Grow Up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 33 came from lower middle class family, College grad and I have no debt, how?&#8230;I never got it in the 1st place. How about that for an idea? The key to all your debt problems, How about don&#8217;t put yourself in debt the 1st place. I like how people talk about emotions and relationships and the subject is money. That&#8217;s probably why they are in debt in the 1st place. What ever happened to personal responsibility? Ohh, this is real life, boo whoo, numbers are great in theory but I gotta live in the real world&#8221;&#8230;boo whoo&#8230;.that type of thinking is what fuels the problem in the 1st place. Take your emotions out spending. Grow Up.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess like I said before, it&#039;s not about the math, but about the risks.  If I can pay off those smaller balances completely, I then have that money to add to my snowball...OR if something comes up, I can go back to minimum payments on the rest of the debt while I restock my emergency fund. 

If I&#039;m trying to service more debts longer by trying to pay off the larger, higher-interest debt first, I wouldn&#039;t have that &quot;wiggle room.&quot;  I like his &quot;lower your risk&quot; philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess like I said before, it&#8217;s not about the math, but about the risks.  If I can pay off those smaller balances completely, I then have that money to add to my snowball&#8230;OR if something comes up, I can go back to minimum payments on the rest of the debt while I restock my emergency fund. </p>
<p>If I&#8217;m trying to service more debts longer by trying to pay off the larger, higher-interest debt first, I wouldn&#8217;t have that &#8220;wiggle room.&#8221;  I like his &#8220;lower your risk&#8221; philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Besides, math is nice in theory, Dave helped me to see money is real life and real life involves emotions, motivations, distractions, relationships, etc... 

Dave teaches you where you live and not from a bank counter where numbers fit &quot;nicely&quot; and conveniently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Besides, math is nice in theory, Dave helped me to see money is real life and real life involves emotions, motivations, distractions, relationships, etc&#8230; </p>
<p>Dave teaches you where you live and not from a bank counter where numbers fit &#8220;nicely&#8221; and conveniently.</p>
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